As an animation nerd I gotta mention Shrek. As a parody of “Disney princess movies” it killed the entire genre dead.
The only time Disney tried to play the tropes somewhat straight again was the Princess and the Frog, and THAT was a major flop (though racism probably also played a part in that).
Since then Disney only made remakes or titles like Frozen that spend 70% of their runtime mugging at themselves and poking fun at their own tropes (… While still circling back to them anyway and failing to make any point or commentary)
On a less “this made a major cultural impact” note and more of a “this personally completely altered my entire sense of humour and replaced the original in my heart” – SnapCube’s Realtime Fandub Games Sonic Adventure 2
Oh oh ohohoh! Just remembered JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure. Very much a manga that was poking fun at contemporaries like Fist of the North Star… And while it didn’t outlive or outdo them per se, it definitely gained a life of its own, continuing to this day and actually being quite influential in its own right.
The only time Disney tried to play the tropes somewhat straight again was the Princess and the Frog, and THAT was a major flop (though racism probably also played a part in that).
Probably, I watched because of my kid recently, and it striked me as one of the better Disney movies. In fact, it’s a pretty awesome one compared to recent bigger hits like Frozen and etc.
I also quite liked it. It feels like a ‘classic’ Disney movie.
's a good movie. Predictable as those disney princess musicals tend to be–
– But still. It’s pretty. It’s entertaining. And the music sequences are awesome.
princess and the frog had no chance, disney wanted it to fail so they had an excuse to never go back to 2d animation again
That part I didn’t know but it doesn’t surprise me either.
Still, “Disney wanted to kill off their traditional animation department” might explain why every movie since has been CGI/Live Action. – It does NOT explain why every movie since has been so metalinguistic and self-satirising. THAT can be laid at Dreamworks’ feet entirely, with the influence of Shrek et. al. on the cultural zeitgeist.
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Wrong game, but I always appreciate SnapCube regardless.
Yugi Oh The Abridged Series
Same should be said for DBZ Abridged. I seriously do a double take every time I see an original episode now, as the voice actors and characterizations from Abridged have replaced the canon ones in my head.
Sword Art Online Abridged.
Does it count if I only read summaries of both works, not the works itself?
“A true story” is a parody on the “travelogue” that were popular in ancient Greece, like Homer’s Odyssey and Illiad. 800 years later, they had a resurgence in the Roman Empire, like when Virgil wrote the Aeneid. Still 200 years later, A True Story was written by Lucian.
In the preface, Lucian complains that the genre was ruined by authors making up unbelievable tales to trick their dumb readership. So he thinks it better to just admit that all he says is a lie.
The story goes on how Lucian then set sail across the Atlantic, got caught in a storm so terrible it blew him to outer space, and meet the all-male civilisation that lives on the moon, who carry their children through the calf of their leg.
Lucian and his crew return to Earth, get swallowed by a whale, explore the Islands of the blessed, see the Sinners being punished (the ones who lied in their stories being punished the hardest) and reach a distant continent. Lucian says what happened there will be shared in the sequel, which a comment describes as the biggest lie of all.
This does not fit the criteria so im sorry in advance, but it reminded me of the “Somebody That I Used To Know” song and that there is a really cool “5 people 1 guitar” cover that has 200M views which is a good 8% of the original video with 2.4B views.
They actually use 9 hands on that guitar (10 if you consider the one holding the top end)
There’s a difference between a parody and a cover. Weird Al does parodies, this is a cover.
Don Quixote
The Princess Bride
Cold Comfort FarmI think a lot of Whitest Kid’s U Know stuff genuinely transcends the topics its mocking by how good it is.
For example: WKUK - Kennedy Assasination
That song at 3:41 swims into my head from time to time, when I’m feeling stressed or overworked or uncertain about the future:
Somewhere out in space there is a place,
Where I can do what I want to,
And all at my own pace.Somewhere out of time I hope I’ll find,
A place where I can just unwind,
And work on my own mind.Oh send me a signal, oh give me a prayer,
I just need to know that there’s some spot out there,
Where I could be me and you could be you…Just a pure sentiment longing for free time, personal agency, co-existence, brotherhood, and harmony – which I think are topics everyone can click with.
I’ve spent the last couple of hours re-watching WKUK skits because of you.
Man those guys are funny.
Great actors too, Trevor himself had just such a way with expression delivering lines both wacky and straight
RIP local sexpot.
Northanger Abbey by Jane Austen is a satire of Gothic novels in general, and The Mysteries of Udolpho by Ann Radcliffe in particular. Several others are referenced by name in the story and for many of them it’s probably the only reason they are even remembered today.
Not really a parody but “happy but beats 2 and 4 are swapped.”
The truth is this: oof!
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Pretty much everything from Weird Al.
Word Crimes for taking a song about dubious consent and changing it into a legitimately educational song.
Definitely White and Nerdy, and Like a Surgeon and Amish Paradise are on par.
Amish Paradise came to me, even over White N’ Nerdy
Blazing Saddles. It killed the western genre for a long time because of how well it parodied them
Austin Powers did nearly the same with Bond/spy flicks for a while. From Wikipedia:
Daniel Craig, who portrayed James Bond on screen from 2006 to 2021, credited the Austin Powers franchise with the relatively serious tone of later Bond films. In a 2014 interview, Craig said, “We had to destroy the myth because Mike Myers fucked us”, making it “impossible” to do the gags of earlier Bond films which Austin Powers satirized.
That’s interesting. I always felt the newer Bond films were taking themselves a bit too seriously. I suppose this might be why.
And then they made Blofeld to be James Bond’s brother which was never a thing in any Bond movie before. That was just a thing they did in Austin Powers.
Austin pretty much forced them to play it straight. It’s was a stupidly huge movie back when it came out.
Hot Fuzz is the best buddy cop movie I’ve ever seen.
Just as Shaun of the Dead is the best zombie movie (come fight me)
Why would I fight you? I’ve got your back! Now, let’s go to the Winchester for a pint until this all blows over.
Hahah, such an iconic line
And no one talks about the 3rd film
I honestly couldn’t get into it, I find it less endearing. Maybe should give it a rewatch
I thought it was ok, but not even close to the other two.
Same. It was ultimately pretty forgettable except for the bathroom fight scene, which is literally all I remember of it.
Hot Fuzz is one of the better examples in this thread, because it doesn’t run solely on ribbing buddy cop films. If you’ve never seen a buddy cop film in your life, Hot Fuzz is still a perfectly good comedy with some surprisingly touching moments.
Knowing what it parodies makes it better, of course, but it doesn’t look down at them.
For my wife Spaceballs is the original and Star Wars is the spoof.
But more seriously, too many people didn’t register that Scream was a parody. That way it managed to surpass older slashers.
I wouldn’t call Scream a parody. Scary Movie was the parody. Scream was just self aware that it was a scary movie in a universe where scary movies exist.
I watched the original Scream years after seeing Scary Movie, and realized Scary Movie is just Scream on cocaine. A lot of the jokes are the same or just slightly different.
What’s the line between being self aware and a parody?
What’s the line between being self aware and a parody?
I feel like this would require a Venn diagram. Not so much a “this crosses the line” but some movies are parody, some are self aware, some are both and some are neither.
Funnily enough, I looked up self awareness vs parody, and the first movie based article specifically addressed those two movies.
To summarize, parodies show why those things being parodied are dumb, while self awareness is embracing the tropes while not taking itself seriously. Which answers my question.
What’s the line between being self aware and a parody?
How many lines of blow does it take before you stop writing a self-aware script and devolve into parody?
I saw Spaceballs before I saw Star Wars. I cannot take any Star Wars movie seriously now.
Imagine that.
A movie set in the future with advanced space craft yet has guys dueling with pink glowsticks.
I didn’t need Spaceballs to come to that conclusion when I was about 9.its not in the future though its a long time ago
Before Spaceballs, contemporaneous with Star Wars, we had “Hardware Wars”:
You’ll laugh!.You’ll cry! You’ll kiss three bucks goodbye!
My gf used to believe that Scary Movie was the original. She didn’t had idea that there was an actual movie called Scream.
Can confirm scream was one of the first horror movies I watched and I just figured the rest were like that.
Galaxy Quest!
Still the best star trek movie
By Grabthar’s Hammer…
Airplane parodying the airliner movies like Zero Hour
Dr Strangelove parodying atomic terror movies like Fail Safe
Dr Strangelove parodying atomic terror movies like Fail Safe
I legit didn’t know it was parodying something else. I thought it was just gallows humour.
Nobody watches the other airliner movies, but at least with Airplane! you know you’re watching a parody.
Edit: Per other people in this thread, apparently not.
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb is a parody of a book by Peter George called Red Alert.
The book plays it perfectly straight. They started to adapt the book into a movie, but found they kept having to cut elements out to keep it from being absurd or funny because of the sheer…bullshit that is mutually assured destruction, so they leaned into it and made it a farce. And now just about no one is aware of Red Alert.
Dr. Strangelove was released before Fail Safe. The story goes that they were both being filmed around the same time and Kubrick used his pull with the studio to make sure Fail Safe was released later in the year.
Seems a really odd thing to insist your parody is released before the movie it’s parodying. And I don’t think there were all that many movies about the terror of nuclear war until after the Cuban missile crisis. It takes a couple of years to make a movie and Dr. Strangelove came out less than two years after the Cuban Missile Crisis, so it was pretty much the first of it’s kind.
Seems to me like Dr. Strangelove is a black comedy, not a parody.
Fail-Safe is amazing though. And I actually prefer that it’s a computer glitch, that no individual causes everything to go bad, because the problem is the system
Naked Gun.
Austin Powers.
Team America: World Police
The dicks, pussies, and assholes speech was based on an actual speech.
by who? where can i read it? how did i not know this? this sounds fascinating!
That’s fucking awesome
I’m Matt Damen!
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