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    Windows 11 refusing to install on hardware it can absolutely run on.

    IP rating on smartphones so there’s seals and glue everywhere and opening them up is a fucking nightmare.

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      Dumbest thing about those IP ratings is that they don‘t even provide any warranty rights for water damage.

      “IP rating only describes the sealing properties at the time of assembly and may deteriorate with time.” my ass!

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      My desktop won’t run Windows 11 according to Windows 11. But if I make a VM with fake TPM on it, it will run perfectly well inside a VM on a machine that won’t run it lol

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        It wouldn’t install on an all-in-one PC I was selling, until I clicked the bypass options (RAM, TPM, etc) in Rufus

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      the worst part is that there are plenty of examples of older phones that achieved high IP ratings while also being more repairable. they just gaslight us into accepting it.

      (also obligatory 🐧)

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      Windows 11 refusing to install on hardware it can absolutely run on.

      RUFUS is not only a great tool with which to build your USB installer (it has an option to download the correct and latest ISO directly from Microsoft), but in the subsequent steps it also asks if you want to modify the installer in some pretty useful ways. Such as bypassing a Microsoft account in favour of a local account, and neutering some of the more recent requirements. IIRC the TPM 2.0 requirement can still be nerfed.

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      U can still force an install on older hardware, I did it on my old Lenovo laptop and have t had an issue! Just takes a command to make it install despite “not officially being supported”

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        I know, but many people barely know what “supported hardware even mean”, they will see the message " this computer won’t receive any more updates" and simply buy a new one.

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          An unfortunate product of our consumer society :/ nobody knows shit about the crap they use every day any more! I remember when owning a car meant learning to do spark plugs and oil changes, now most people couldn’t hang their spare on the side of the road if their life depended on it nevermind be bothered to figure out what hardware is in their porn browsing device.

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        @innermachine @bobo1900 As of recently, you can officially install Win11 on unsupported hardware, you just have to click a prompt acknowledging that you’re on your own when you do it.

        However, there’s nothing saying MS won’t rugpull that and start blocking Win11 on unsupported hardware again.

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    Washing machines. In the stores, you see a shiny stainless steel drum, but holding up the drum is a raw aluminum spindle. Those spindles corrode with typically caustic laundry detergents to last about 6 years. Replacement was possible, with a day of work. Now, manufacturers seal the drum unit with welded plastic so replacement is impossible.

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    My Chevy Volt 2013, which still runs great, no longer has OnStar because they never planned for a way to upgrade the connectivity when 3G networks were retired. So I am concretely less safe when driving and lose other useful features like remote start, milage tracking, etc.

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      To add insult to injury, they are fully capable of adding the 4g module because Canadian Volts were able to be upgraded. GM decided to not let US owners pay for the upgrade, because fuck us that’s why.

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    Win11… The amount of perfectly good hardware that became ewaste in October is insane to me

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    Windows 11’s TPM requirements.

    I recently built a brand new computer for my uncle. He was running a 3rd gen Core i7 machine running Windows 7. I get a call that it won’t boot. I do manage to get it booted, the SMART data shows the hard drive is on its last eyebrows, and anyway he’s running an OS that’s three generations out of date.

    I’m a big Linux user, I’ve got my aunt running Linux Mint. My uncle is such a dunce at computers I don’t think I can do that, because he lacks the vocabulary to tell me what he wants his computer to do. “I might use it for business.” In his line of work that could mean anything from going to quickbooks.com to needing some piece of Windows-only shitware. So “Get a .exe from somewhere” had to remain intact.

    For everything he actually does with that computer, that old 3rd gen i7 was fine. Replace the hard disk with a SATA SSD, maybe replace the weird 2-4-2-4 some but not all of it is dual channel 12GB of RAM with two 8 GB sticks of DDR3 and let it roll…except no currently supported version of WIndows runs on this computer.

    For a large number of people, computers became objectively fast enough in 2015. That’s about when SSDs became standard equipment, fixing any hardware reason for “damn this thing is slow” even out of midrange consumer hardware. Gamers, home labbers and AI startups need more power, the rest of the world doesn’t. And that was a problem for Microsoft.

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      I actually see the TPM requirement as a good thing bc it will help kill Windows as a gaming platform. Once the AI Bubble bursts, gaming will be cheaper again and with a destroyed economy, many kids will start gaming as it‘s a relatively cheap hobby and their family might nit afford expensive holidays anymore. Mobile PCs like the SteamDeck need to become mainstream as sitting for long periods is extremely unhealthy, especially for children.

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        I’m hoping the steam frame gets more people into vr. Just standing up to play video games is so much better for you.

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          VR is even better, didn’t think of that. It is honestly quite annoying having to sit in a dark room at a desk to game. I‘m definitely getting a Steam Frame just so I can play normal games from my bean bag or the living room.

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            I hope it’s not too heavy or at least well balanced. I can only last an hour or two with the meta quest 2 and 3 until it starts giving me a headache. But I’m solidly middle aged pretty much any repetitive action is painful

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    Dishwashers, the 3 most recent dishwashers that I have had experience using across 3 very different households and use levels, from 3 different manufacturers, have all had minor to major faults in the 4-5 years since installation, just after the warranty period ended.

    Mostly drawer and roller related, but also a pump failure.

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      Samsung washing machine. I watched a YouTube video about how they deliberately chose a material that wears out after like 4 or 5 years for a critical component. Real cool, thanks Samsung.

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        Drum spider and drum with two dissimilar metals that react and eats the drum spider away with use?

        They’ve been doing it for decades at this point. No idea why people buy Samsung appliances.

        Then again even Bosch and Miele have started using plastic welded drums which prevent repair of simple parts like bearings and motors so… Fuck us all I guess.

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          That’s the one. It was my mom’s. I told her to get a speed queen if she wanted to spend money like that, but she didn’t listen, and the POS broke like 5 minutes after the warranty was up.

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          They are hoping for people to get a new one. One of the drain pipe is made of plastic that is brittle after 4 years! There are Tupperwares that last 5 times than that without breaking. I refuse to believe its not a conscious decision for it to break. And no aftermarket alternative. You need $110 parts from Samsung supplier!

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    Probably doesn’t count as I didn’t buy it, so I’m technically not dealing with it. But let’s talk about electric riding lawnmowers. Last year I was looking to replace my 20+ year old riding lawnmower with an electric one. Could not find a single manufacturer who would also provide the parts lists. Digging deeper, seems like they simply do not sell parts, like at all. The mowers just aren’t repairable - straight up, if it breaks, buy a new one. That’s irresponsible when talking about an electric drill, but a full riding mower? WTF?

    To be fair, this might be a chicken & egg problem. Low adoption rates means there’s a very small market for parts, so there’s no aftermarket support. And that aftermarket is where I get parts for my current mower. So maybe it’s not fair to blame the manufacturer? But I think that’s a stretch. From where I’m standing, it sure looks like intentional planned obsolescence.

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      eh, they are already making the parts anyway. just make them available on order or something, not ideal but acceptable. beats forcing consumers to take a leap of faith for a product that looks pretty clearly to be disposable.

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      John Deere ztracks have replacement part lists I managed to find on a retailer website. Most of the parts for mowers are off the shelf anyway, I would imagine the power supply stuff is off the shelf too.

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    Not sure if this qualifies as planned obsolescence but Acer stopped supporting a tablet I bought in less than two years. I have been avoiding Acer products ever since.

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    Windows and ios

    School just got 30 new laptops because of the tpm requirement on windows 11 just like Microsoft planned.

    I would not mind helping them with Linux of any distro even after Im done learning there because it’s so much better

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    Samsung Galaxy S8 Pro. It’s one of these curved phones with glass on the back.

    The front glass is hardened Gorilla Glass. The back glass breaks when you’re looking at it wrong. Because of the curved soapbar style, the phone easily slips out of your hand, shattering the back glass.

    I am very delicate with my phones and never broke one in all of my life. The S8 was the final boss for me, though. I had to have the back glass repaired two times, one time it just fell off of my bed which is only 15cm above the floor. Fuck you, Samsung.

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    65" Hisense TV. Bought it new and 1.5 years later the motherboard died. Scoured the Internet for the part and it turned out Hisense didn’t even sell it, you had to buy secondhand used boards.

    But it must have been a common problem b/c over ~6 months even the resellers were permanently sold out. Recycled it in the original packaging.

    IMO companies like that should be forced to recycle every scrap of their e-waste themselves.

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    Dacor Stove

    In 2006 my wife and I moved into a new house and bought a Dacor RSD30S stove.

    Dacor made parts for the thing for TWO YEARS and that’s it. I owned it for 12 years and it went through three igniters and the door handle broke. The first igniter broke within 18 months and I was able to replace it with a new one. The second one went out at around 5 years and the part was already discontinued. Fortunately, the parts guy I was ordering from was very familiar with Dacor and said that the igniter from the new model would work, the bracket would just need to be drilled to mount it. It took me all of 5 minutes. The third one went out and I was screwed. So I spent about 2 years manually igniting my “modern” duel fuel range. Even when it did work, Dacor used one igniter coil for all four igniters. If they were not all perfectly clean the current would only go to one with the least impedance and the rest wouldn’t work.

    I was never able to fix the broken handle.

    Dacor… Never again.

    Contrast that with the stove I replaced the Dacor with, a Wolf DF304. Granted, we’re talking about a very high end range vs a middle of the road POS. However, Wolf has not changed the design of the DF304 in 25 years. I actually bought my Wolf 2nd hand, hence why I could afford it. It was 8 years old when I bought it. Wolf not only still has all the parts for it in stock, the stove is still in production. It currently is 14 years old and works like new, compared to the Dacor being 12 years old and completely clapped out. Also Wolf uses independent coils for each igniter, so the current doesn’t flow to the igniter with the least impedance like the Dacor.

    I know this sounds like a case of “you get what you paid for”, but that Dacor new was $2500, so not exactly cheap.

    And don’t even get me started on General Electric appliances…