Greentings As youve seen from the the title, i want to get a new printer as a present for my parents. Sadly they are still windows peasants and my mom somehow thinks that the HP printer on her desk has been a good financial investment, even though it has costed us more than 300 bucks in ink over the past 2 years.

I was hoping that you fine folks would have some good recommendations to replace this money leach on their home. Ive heard about the entire brother lazer meme going around, but the ones ive seen from them only do monochrome. And frankly speaking i dont think that my birth specimens can comprehend the greatness of 18 century film on their paper. Anyways have a nice day or night, internet strangers!

  • lemmyreader@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Brother laser is indeed the way to go for black and white printing. Else have a look at Epson.

    p.s. HP = evil avoid HP if you can.

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      5 months ago

      I have a Brother color laser printer and it’s great. Just as reliable as my B&W Brother laser printer. I don’t use it to print photographs, though - I assume your recommendation is more for people who need photo quality color?

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    Approaching this from a different angle: if your mother still thinks the printer they have was a good purchase, will they appreciate you giving them a different one and insisting it’s better? Sure, an HP printer is a big waste, but an even bigger waste is giving them a better printer only for them to continue using the HP. IMO you should make sure they are on board before getting them another one, even if their current one is a cancer on society.

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    I have the Brother HL-L3270CDW, which prints in color. Ran me about $300 (it’s $270 directly from Brother now) plus the cost of the high yield toner cartridges I bought with it, but you can probably get away with the included toner for a while - with my B&W Brother the included toner lasted me over a year. It says the starters are supposed to last 1000 pages and the high yield 2300, but I’m pretty sure those numbers are very low based on my own usage estimates. I definitely went through more than two 500 page packs of paper in that first year.

    It doesn’t have a built-in scanner but it does have:

    • wireless and ethernet connectivity, plus support for AirPrint, cloud printing, etc
    • direct USB connectivity (though I’ve never used it)
    • duplex printing (not for A4 apparently)
    • a 150 or so sheet capacity tray (advertised 250) that can handle letter, legal, A4, and anything smaller all the way down to 3” x 4.57”

    It says it doesn’t support printing card stock but I’ve printed small amounts (30 or so sheets) at a time, largely without issues. That said, the only times I’ve had the printer jam, I was printing card stock, so maybe there’s some truth to that recommendation.

    I haven’t used third party toner but my understanding is that as long as it’s good quality the printer will work fine. It doesn’t force you to only use first party toner.

    The color quality has been good enough for my purposes - substantially better than the consumer inkjet printers I used like 20 years ago, but worse than current inkjets. That said, if photo quality color is the main thing your parents print and they print regularly, my recommendation - based on research, not personal experience - is an Epson EcoTank. From their site the entry-level model (the ET-2800) is $200 and comes with about 3k pages worth of ink (and replacement ink bottles have even more capacity). Other commenters have covered it in depth.

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    5 months ago

    I’ll cast a vote for checking the local Facebook marketplace or craigslist for a deal on a good laser printer.

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    I don’t know what they sell these days but I’ve had a couple of Samsung mono lasers that were cheap ($150ish) and lasted decades of infrequent use.

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    Everyone here is suggesting laser and it’s great for sure, but personally I’m still using inkjet (Brother MFC-J491DW), and it works fine for my needs. The main reason being it’s a cheap way to get color, plus it doesn’t occupy much space, in spite of offering scanning as well as an ADF. If you want to get an equivalent laser printer, you’re looking at expensive and bulky options. I haven’t so far come across any reasonably priced, compact AIO laser color MFPs (if there is one - let me know!).

    I’ve been using this inkjet for ~4 years and never had any issues. The ink has never once dried out, in spite of printing only like 2-3 times an year. So I’m happy to recommed that, or maybe a newer model in that series.

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        is it? i thought toner would be better since it holds a hella lot more ink. i might just be biased since the only toner cartridge ive seen in my life is just massive while the only ink cartridges ive seen are from HP… yeah i might be biased.

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          Toner is tiny plastic particles, but ink can be made of various biodegradable dies and ink cartridges can be more easily refilled. Toner tends to be more economical than ink, but for the same reason that it is less environmentally friendly: Plastic particles don’t dry up or biodegrade. Additionally, toner cartridges print more pages before needing to be replaced.

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      i cant take the name seriously lol. i always imagine some warhammer 40k shit with like “Brother get the laser. No, not the printer, the weapon, brother”