• twopi@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    Why not make automated trains with their own dedicated right of way?

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            22 hours ago

            Something like 70% of transport-related particulate emissions (and microplastics) are from tire wear.

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          2 days ago

          Yes, but that’s all subsidized by taxpayers, so it’s more expensive overall but cheaper for YOU.

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          22 hours ago

          I’ve already commented on road damage, but yeah, trucking firms bear no costs for the congestion and other road hazards they bring with them. Society, as is so often the case, sucks up those externalities.

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            22 hours ago

            There’s definitely direct economic damage here too beyond just repairs and slowness. It’s sniffles business growth because the infrastructure is unreliable.

            Sometimes I just like yo imagine how much fun the roads would be without trucks.

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      3 days ago

      It’s absurd to suggest running a railway to every warehouse in East Bumfuck, Missouri.

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        2 days ago

        No one’s claiming that. Trucks can still handle the last mile just like they do it with container ships.

        Im no logistics expert byt ship -> train -> semi sounds like a great infrastructure design especially now as the container is interchangeable between all of these mediums.

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          3 days ago

          Compared to building and maintaining a railway, yes, by orders of magnitude.

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            3 days ago

            Citation needed

            A cursory search shows rail in rural areas is $2 million per mile and a highway is $4-10 million per mile.

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              3 days ago

              Yeah but it’d be fucking insane to build a state highway to each and every destination in every hamlet, just like it would be for rail.

              And it’s not just cost of initial construction, it’s also cost of maintenance. If the ground shifts slightly under the road, it’s a bump. If it shifts under a railway, it’s a derailment for the first train that finds it and a couple million dollars in recovery and repair, plus the downtime while that section is out of service. And that doesn’t even start to account for overhead like signal operation, whereas on a road you just use a stop sign.

              I like trains more than the next guy, but you absolutely cannot just replace every road with a railway.

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            2 days ago

            A road built and maintained by taxpayers is much cheaper (to a shipping company) than building, maintaining, and operating a railway. Making taxpayers responsible for the infrastructure you use is one way to make your business much more profitable.