• SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      So whats hammas excuse for oct7 then? After all this is what started this whole shit.

      You are saying they were treated in the hospital? Well there are sources saying they were there managing and planning an imminent terror attack against Israel.

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        And surprisingly those sources are IDF and can’t be backed up by anyone else, and on top of that all the footage and testimonies we have contradicts your story.

        Ps: Hamas had no excuse to kill or kidnap any civilians. Didn’t think I had to spell that out to you, I thought it was clear from literally every other comment I made here and anywhere else on lemmy. Also, Israel had no excuse to commit a genocide, destroy infrastructure, do field executions, etc.

        Hope bolding it helps you understand the point.

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          5 months ago

          Ive asked this to you a few days ago and ill ask again.

          “Hammas had no excuse to kill or kidnap”

          Ok then, what Israel should do in your opinion to get the remaining 137 kidnapped back?

          • A ceasefire, negotiations, the two state solution, paying for all the damage and rebuilding Gaza since they destroyed it, paving the path to peace and finally allowing Palestinians to live with dignity.

            We know that violence just further radicalizes people. The Hydra effect means that for every Hamas fighter kill, new ones emerge as long as the occupation and dehumanization continues.

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              None of it will return them. A ceasefire will just make hammas drip them one by one to gain more time to prepare OCT7 on 2024. This is a statement made by the leader of Hammas. Not my invention.

              Paying for all the damages? Do you know what Hammas did with all the money they got in the past 10 years? Billions of dollars went straight into digging tunnels and building thousands of rockets.

              Negotiations? Israel offered a ceasefire numerous times in the past months and Sinwar rejected it every single time. Stating he wants a ceasefire first. Does he think Israel is stupid? Lets not forget that there was a ceasefire in place on OCT6.

              We all want Palestinians to live in dignity. The very first step towards that is obliterating Hammas.

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          5 months ago

          Surprisingly the sources who are saying they were only treated there are Hammas themselves and the state owned propaganda channel Al Jazerra.

          Your sources arent better than mine.

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        5 months ago

        If “they broke international law first, so it’s now fine for me to” is a legitimate justification as you say, then Isreal’s decades of international law violations would make Oct 7th fully legitimate too.