It’s better to ask forgiveness than permission

In some situations with some people yes. It’s really hard to separate the project and team.

Usually, projects I have seen start with the best plans and methods, or at least vague good intentions, but later pretend they never met them. Like a cheap date.

There are some projects that naturally lend themselves to one approach or other, and they last longer following the original guidelines ; but if a project lives long enough these guidelines become the enemy.

I think the only projects that follow any set of guidelines for longer than a few years; they have a narrow purpose for being. Straightforward evolution or needs

Maybe if the threads pause a lot, and pause even more as the stack unwinds to the final exciting conclusion.

Is there… is there a go fund me the attackers? Asking for my cousin’s ex girlfriend’s dog

One of the first of many.

I think this will be rarer now than later though. It’s really early days and the detained probably are still being treated mostly in the rule of law. Not that the arrests would stand up to legal scrutiny. But once arrested will probably not be too harmed physically.

Later, of course, this will change. If we are lucky it will only be some victims, and not hundreds of thousands

All I know is that if I can blame the average Russian, German, Brit, Serbian, Hutu etc for bad things in history. No force on earth is going to have me give Americans a pass. Especially after the majority of them supported the wars in the Middle East.

It’s a genocide, the clues are everywhere. It’s not an American thing that makes it unique. There are shitty people everywhere mixed in with decent folks.

And it’s fine to not protest or just be quiet. Sometimes that is all one can do. It’s ok to think one is powerless to oppose such things. This is the case for many.

But actual support that is voluntary? No

And I think there is some overlap between our two views. Many of the people who I would give a pass to, are many of the people you talk about

No doubt about the genocide.

Maybe I am unfairly judging Americans who support Israel or look down on Palestinians.

But I have so much anger about that I cannot be impartial. Most Americans have had hints they ignore, deliberately. I can’t forgive that

I started in world, realized I was not a good fit, and transferred my first few months.

World is great for some. Many coming from Reddit will feel comfortable. Especially USA middle class liberals who do not vary their news and don’t think too hard about certain things

When I worked with customers I found having a slightly unpleasant look, while working hard, propelled me into stock. They had to be very desperate to use me at the front.

My secret power was sucking up to management though. A combination of unfriendliness to some and subservience to others is hard to do for many

I think it’s all part of the child abuse cycle; people manipulated and humiliated while young, without a person to speak up for them, tend to support these types of things. And a lot of their children will too.

But those who had more nurturing and love tend to not support ideologies which dehumanize, and can recognize more when something promotes senseless violence. They are also more decent adults.

It mostly works on people already bigoted and hateful, I think. A decent person may have inaccurate picture, but indecent people support it more

Brainwashing or just nasty people?

Not yet another protocol invading me brain!?? For all I know the different pattern of signal does things to my delicate nets.

I already had to contend with the fridge and garage door

The bad part is four things:

• the op either deliberately or legitimately did not understand what was being said
• the vast majority of the comments just read what the op wrote and not what was said
• having this many comments out of whack with this many upvotes gives ammunition to the bigots
• this is a tech forum ??

Ok:

• list of donors that are not all left
• parent organizations that get money from above
• mozilla gets money from parents

Op latches onto one donor; pulls some other stuff out , and the crowd goes wild

The original op took some things out of context, Ford, last I checked, was not a bastion of the left. He names big donors.

Then he describes how that money trickles down; and the last I checked the not so polite description is more accurate than not.

I don’t mind people bashing bad guys here; and I’m sure this fellow has spent years raiding your hackles. But some people like me, it’s just embarrassing to read

Oh dear, here I go.

Do you have reading skills?

Strange they can only introduce new user tools now, for this. I thought they were absolutely incapable of innovation or improving any if its service

I understood what he said. Strip out some rude terms and it sounds accurate. The comments here sound like someone shouted “squirrel” to a pack of rabid dogs.

I also lack common sense and am posting this comment. In my feeble defense I really don’t know the guy, and suspect he likes baiting others

A good team can make any of these strategies work. A bad team will make a mockery out of them all. Most teams are neither good or bad, and stumble forward, or backwards, doing the motions