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  • Zionism and Nazism are incompatible.

    You chose the word incompatible… I said they couldn’t be equated to mean the same thing.

    It’s just academically dishonest to claim that Zionism, (which was largely a response to Nazism) is the same as Nazism.

    If we begin to accept this definitional generalization it will come back to haunt us. What do you think the liberal world will say if Palestine were to free itself from occupation from the river to the sea?

    Wouldn’t they in their retaliation be creating a nationalist ethnostate via ethnic based violence? Wouldn’t we be asking for a little context and nuance then? Or would we just check the same boxes and say they were Nazis?


  • you people found your angle to attack rhetoric you don’t like.

    People who don’t ignore historical context?

    comparing Zionists to Nazis is based on their nationalism and commitment to oppression and genocide.

    Again, reductive. Based on your own criteria basically every powerful nation today can be accused of being a Nazis.

    By that criteria the Han were Nazis when they overthrew the Manchus, the American governments were Nazi when they expanded west. When you lose definitional context, all of history and it’s lessons begin to become opaque.

    By just saying any act of colonialism or ethnic violence gets lumped in as Nazism, it redirects the blame from those who committed the acts to generalized ideologies that you associate with the third Reich.


  • Zionism is about Jews having land.

    Again, highly reductive. This is minimalizing the hundreds of years of pogroms across Europe and Asia the Jews endured, resulting in the inception of Zionism in the 1800s.

    I wonder, who wanted to give Jews Madagascar? 😲

    Did you not read? I told you it was one of the Nazi schemes to answer “the Jewish problem” while stealing their wealth to redistribute among party members.

    I’m not saying you can’t correctly compare aspects of Zionism to Nazi Fascism. I’m saying that you can’t equate the two to be the same thing.

    Zionism’s popularity among Jewish communities in Europe didn’t become popular until the rise of Nazism in Germany. It didn’t become popular in Asia until the Soviets began forced deportations after the doctor’s plot.

    Ignoring the actual historical context, just logically it’s full of internal contradictions. If Zionism predates Nazism by a hundred years, wouldn’t they be the ones who invented fascism?

    You are accidentally supporting actual Nazi propaganda about the Zionist intentions for turning Germany into their new homeland.

    Again, I’m not saying that I support Zionism, I don’t even support fucking borders. It’s just that if we continue utilizing Nazism for every argument, it loses it inherent meaning, thus giving cover to actual practicing Nazis.

    I do however think it’s important to discus how fascist governments create fascist governments. It’s actually something Hitler and mousseline talked about, that to fight against fascism a governments only response is to become more militaristic, and thus more fascist.



  • No it doesn’t. Fascism as definition uses what suits them best and what’s give them power, they are opportunists. The church was a good way for them.

    Lol, no true Scott’s man for secularism?

    Hard to be nice colonialists though.

    Again, are all forms of colonialism fascist…?

    Ok , if you like to split hairs, biggest funders of the state of Israel and it’s colonies at its formation.

    Splitting hairs? The whole point of me saying you’re being reductive is that you are ignoring large swaths of historical context.

    biggest funders of the state of Israel and it’s colonies at its formation.

    Israel was formed in 1948, three years after the fall of the Nazi party…

    The largest state contributor during the formation of Israel was Britain. They were in control of Palestine at the end of the war, not Germany.

    I think you are recalling the Nazis “attempt” to relocate Jews to places outside Europe, including places like Palestine and Madagascar . The Nazi made several schemes to deport “willing” Jews prior to WW2, in reality they were just schemes to seize assets before the Jews left the country.

    Google generic fascism. And nazi support for Israel.

    Perhaps read more material about Haavaar agreement than a quick Google search?

    The Germans weren’t funding Zionism, the Jews being forced to leave the country were, and the vast majority of property seized from the Jews never made it to Palestine.



  • Nazism is a secular form of fascism , Zionism is a form of theocratic fascism.

    Both of these claims are highly reductive… Claiming Nazism was secular ignores the complicity of the church’s role in the Nazi party and the Holocaust.

    Zionism isn’t a form of fascism, though it can be supported by a fascist government.

    Biggest funders of Zionism was the third reich

    Zionism has been a thing since the 19th century and continues into the 21st century, the third Reich only lasted 20 years… No the third reich was not the largest funder of the Zionist movement.

    Not all bad geopolitical events can be defined as fascist.



  • No worries, there’s a lot of narratives about assange being pushed around lately.

    As I said originally, I don’t think he deserves to be put in a black box or anything. But I do believe he’s a self important ass, who is probably extremely unpleasant to be around.

    Most of my opinions on him were formed around how he treated his original team at wikileaks. He did release information that needed to released, but the way the dude released the information was against the wishes of his very capable (at the time) team, who were highly (rightly) concerned about endangering their sources.

    Hell, his original security architect stole their servers and destroyed them afterwards because Assange was constantly going rogue and ignoring security protocols.

    Any “journalist” willing to endanger their sources or their opsec for headlines and personal glory isn’t a journalist imo.