I get that you see no value in art, but I thoroughly disagree with your views on that subject. You and i could have had an interesting discussion on how IP laws affects medicine but I’m not gonna have that with you since you are exactly the kind of person who has zero respect for people who make things.

Yeah. It’s a masterpiece and in my opinion, one the best stories she ever wrote. Which says a lot, because she almost only wrote brilliant works.

I always describe her as Scandinavia’s JK Rowling (only a thousand times better) when I explain to non-scandinavians what she means to us. I know I am obligated by law to clown on Sweden, but there are a couple of areas where the swedes are superior and Astrid Lindgren is one of those areas.

Also, happy Easter and I hope you have a wonderful Spring, my friend ❤️

Exactly. There are so, so, so many different ways that no IP laws can backfire severely and in ways that people don’t think about. The scenario you just used, I hadn’t even thought of, but yes! I would HATE for something I created to be used to promote ideologies or products I am vehemently against.

When software and entertainment is created for people to use for free, that is a deliberate action from the creator. They can’t do that every single time, but they can do it once in awhile if they please.

I am a professional artist and I sometimes draw things for free for other people because sometimes I decide it is worth it for me to do that. It is kinda like doing volunteer work. You don’t get paid, but it gives you something back either socially or ideologically etc.

But I am pretty sure that the people who create free software and entertainment either aren’t working full time in software or entertainment and get their money from an unrelated job or they decided to do one for the community inbetween orders. They would not do this all the time if they were financially dependent on their skills and products giving them food on the table. I don’t think you would give your own services away for free all the time in the name of community spirit. But once in awhile, is fine. Then it is an agreement you made woth yourself, that you have given a work to the community for free and therefore you don’t care about IP.

When it comes to games and copying, well, people have copied media for ages and no matter what you say, it does affect profitability. Musicians can’t earn any money on their music. They earn money on merch and when they are on tour. Nobody buys their music anymore because they can just download it for free online. I can’t speak for games as I’m not a gamer, but with movies I personally prefer to buy a physical copy of the film rather than downloading movies in poorer quality than what I would have been able to get on bluray. I don’t know, but I can imagine people still buy games to get the best quality and maybe enough people want to financially support the developers to make sure that they can still produce good games than they want to make copies and share them. If games ended up being copied to the same extent thst music does, I think you would start to see an effect on the market because making games would no longer be financially possible. In fact, the gaming industry bubble did burst a few years ago and I know a lot of developers who can’t find jobs. Similar in animation. And it is not like any of these creators lived good beforehand either. A profitable game, I doubt is profitable in the way you think it is. It is my personal experience from being both part of and a spectator in the industry that the success of any creation is largely smoke and mirrors. People are extremely poor and companies go bankrupt all the time, especially in recent years. Maybe part of it is because people decide to copy a game for free rather than buy it, maybe it is bigger than that, but people don’t really value art nowadays because they don’t see it as art, but as content that they can mindlessly consume and get easy access to. It should be easier than ever for artists to earn money with how much art people consume, but the opposite is true. If artists have their intellectual property taken from them as well in the landscape we already have, then that will be the death of the art career. We have so little already. If we can’t even keep domain over our own creation, then what is the point?

I don’t understand your argument about public domain books. Public domain refers to the material no longer having a living creator who can profit from their own work. People can sell public domain books but that money goes to the publisher who probably did a lovely new edition of an old book with pretty covers.

I don’t know what you mean. The money from a sale of a public domain book won’t financially support the author.

If we talk about a living author who owns their IP and their book is available in the library, then I still say the same thing I did before, that the library doesn’t sell the books, nor do they take ownership of the IP. The book market also has other problems than public libraries. The problems they face is that no one reads anymore, but that is a different discussion.

I think it is so so beautiful. Both the film and the book. It is one of the most beautiful and compassionate children’s stories about death that I have ever known. As a kid, it sure did comfort me to think that if something were to happen to me or my family members, we would meet again in Nangijala.

I think one of the most heartbreaking things I ever saw in a graveyard was a gravestone for an infant that said “Vi ses i Nangijala”.

I also recently discovered a radioplay on youtube based on Astrid’s book and I listened to all of it and even though I’m not fluent in Swedish at all, I fucking loved every second of it. The voice acting, the music and the sound effects are absolutely stellar. If you haven’t listened to it, I highly recommend it. I’m guessing you are Swedish yourself or at least able to understand Swedish!

Dude, it wasn’t until I was in my 20s that I realized that the last shot of the movie adaptation was a shot of their gravestone in the real world. Until then I had been so severely in denial about the implications of that, that I just didn’t register it.

I’m telling you, I was bawling on the floor.

Absolutely. We will see a scenario where the big companies readjust to the new market while everybody else loses.

This reminds me of the mocking of unions that I witnessed happening a lot online a year or two ago and I was so fucking confused how normal everyday people who didn’t own big companies could poopoo unions and call it commie shit.

In my country, we have a proud union history that has secured the rights of workers for generations so it was very bizarre to me to see - mostly Americans - mock unions as a concept.

This is exactly what would happen.

I’m a creator myself and it is already hard enough to get jobs - not even well paying jobs, just jobs. Now we are competing with AI and then you’re telling me that people here on Lemmy agree with these wolves about abolishing IP laws, which means my hard work and intellectual property that I have spent countless hours on developing, is now up for grabs for anyone out there who is bigger and richer than me?

I seriously don’t believe people have thought this through, or they are lying about being creators themselves.

But I guess the “I got mine” mentality is all over the internet. Even here, lol. No one cares as long as they think it doesn’t affect them personally. Ladidah. How did that go for the American farmers who voted for Trump because they thought it would help their farms?

I personally fear that if such a decision was passed, we would see big companies find loopholes and exceptions and/or they would make their profit entirely by stealing from creators without compensation or acknowledgements.

You want to hurt the big companies so badly you’re willing to saw the branch they, you and everybody else sit on just so you can see them fall.

I doubt the big companies will be the ones who will feel threatened into negotiations if IP laws were abolished. They would flourish with their businesses and the AI tech bros would have field day making billions by stealing from all of us.

Your utopia is every creator’s nightmare.

Yes, there are definitely room for improvement when it comes to IP laws but that is a completely different discussion from the one about abolishing IP laws entirely. One discussion is constructive and aims toward a more fair system, the other is Trump-anarchy which will only ever benefit the ones who have money and power while it will screw the rest of us over.

Also, not Swedish. I just love Astrid Lindgren.

There is definitely room for improvement when it comes to IP laws, but abolishing them entirely is not the win some people think it is.

I am hard side eyeing everyone who are pro abolishment of IP laws. You are either mindless consumers who have never spent time and effort creating anything yourselves your entire lives, or you haven’t thought this through.

I hope for the latter.

Yeah! That I very possible! Again, I can only guess and refer to tendencies I have noticed in myself when practicing Cyrillic, but since I haven’t seriously committed to learning Russian or any other language with non-roman letters, I can only guess what it would be like. I only started practicing it because I was developing fictitious languages at the time and wanted to broaden my horizon. Only reason I stopped was because life got hectic af and I haven’t had the time and energy for a year and a half to have hobbies or interests or really anything other than working. I’m slowly moving into hobby and interest territory again now that life is a tiny bit less insane, so maybe I will pick Cyrillic back up. I remember taking a sneak peak on Mongolian script as well and that shit looks like vertical elvish, wtf. So pretty.

Hmm… that’s actually a good question! I have never thought about punctuation but come to think of it I do see some of them in color too. I just tend to ignore them since they are just punctuation. For example ? is white and black while " is brown. It isn’t all symbols that have colors, though. # doesn’t have a color. Periods are black and dashes are creamy yellow. I don’t know if they make a difference when it comes to how I perceive color in a sentence. I thin question mark is the only one I have really noticed because the white is dominant. With the others I just haven’t thought about whether or not they affect my perceptions. I think they do. Kinda like how you know what Mickey mouse looks like but if you were to draw him from memory you would be a but like “uuuuuh…” because you haven’t ever really studied his design, you just recognize it and know it’s him when you see him.

That’s kinda how synesthesia is for me too. I know that B is blue and dashes are creamy yellow etc, but I don’t think about how it looks in sentences until I have to actually study it.

I did try to test it last night with a short sentence and how different types of punctuation affected it. I learned that commas and periods and so on don’t really make a difference while questionmark and three periods does have an effect on the color I see.

As for the rest I can’t say how or if they affect it. The color stuff is very intuitive and organic and I try to stick to the ones I’m certain of while the unclear ones just get labeled as colorless. Even if I see a color with the colorless ones, it’s too unstable for me to be certain with some. For example, the letter F is super tricky. It has like three different colors and kinda flickers for me. Depending on the words F appears in, it will take one of the three colors, but by itself it flickers black, dusty blue and a beige brown. J also flickers between black and blue. So those two letters are colorless to me, even though they technically aren’t.

Sorry if it got a bit weird and random in the end. I’m a bit tired and my thoughts are all over the place haha.

I hope you have a wonderful weekend, friend!

Irony is, that I’m not diagnosed so officially I’m just someone with racing thoughts and a restless soul.

Having near constant racing thoughts and always feeling like you have to work on something and if you don’t it makes you anxious. I thought my boyfriend was the alien for being able to not think about anything at all and just chill and do nothing.

Correct! But that is just how it is to me. Other synesthetes may process letters differently because they use sound or smell or texture or taste etc. It’s a very individual thing.

I think that the ochre/yellowish color appears to me when I look at の because it reminds me of E or rather “e” and to me E/e is a pale yellow. I’m definitely informed by my established understanding of letters in the Roman alphabet, but the color isn’t a one to one copy paste because の and e are still different enough that the colors will be different too.

I started teaching myself the Cyrillic alphabet a few years ago, but got busy with life so I have since forgotten most of it again, but I do remember some of the letters taking on interesting colors for me. Most of the letters in the Cyrillic alphabet LOOK like Roman letters even if they have completely different sounds so many of them just get the color from the Roman alphabet, but some of them are just different enough that the color is unique to them. Correct! But that is just how it is to me. Other synesthetes may process letters differently because they use sound or smell or texture or taste etc. It’s a very individual thing.

I think that the ochre/yellowish color appears to me when I look at の because it reminds me of E or rather “e” and to me E/e is a pale yellow. I’m definitely informed by my established understanding of letters in the Roman alphabet, but the color isn’t a one to one copy paste because の and e are still different enough that the colors will be different too.

I started teaching myself the Cyrillic alphabet a few years ago, but got busy with life so I have since forgotten most of it again, but I do remember some of the letters taking on interesting colors for me. Most of the letters in the Cyrillic alphabet LOOK like Roman letters even if they have completely different sounds so many of them just get the color from the Roman alphabet, but some of them don’t really look like Roman letters and while I was learning, they started to take on their own unique color. Since I still don’t have a solid grasp on the Cyrillic alphabet, the colors are also very flimsy and hard to pin down. In the same way that it is hard for me currently to remember what sound goes with what letter.

But л which has the L sound, generally tends to flicker yellow and reddish pink to me atm. Maybe if I got really good at Cyrillic, it would become more yellow or more reddish pink or maybe, as my understanding of the letters grow, it will take a completely different color? I don’t know. I haven’t learned a - to me - foreign alphabet with language well enough to be able to tell you what happens there. I also don’t remember how colors of the Roman letters were formed for me because when I learned to read and write I was a kid and I didn’t know that how my brain works was a bit different in some areas so I guess the colors just came gradually and naturally and I didn’t think about it until probably my early 20s when I had a history teacher who randomly brought the topic up in class and asked us if we saw colors when we look at letters and words. Me: oh yeah, but don’t everybody?

Also, don’t apologize for asking questions :D

That is awesome!! My version of “room” isn’t too different from yours, actually! Black, white and dark, rich forest green. Im pretty jealous that you have so many blues and pinks. Urgh, lucky!

And I totally get what you mean! 8 is dark purple but eight is bright yellows and whites, with a bit of beige in there somewhere before ending a little spot of black.

Well, for me, the colors show up in ways that tend to make them appealing or unappealing, so for example, I’m normally indiffernet to a plain orange color, but when I see the letter Æ, it is orange like a sunset. Shining, vibrant, light and shadow ripples through it like leaves in front of the afternoon rays. Almost everytime Æ appears in a word, it gives the word an afternoon, golden hour quality that makes the word prettier than normal. The Danish word længes (longing) pretty much has the color combination of you walking through a beech forest in the afternoon sun in May. The browns, the greens and the orange and the gold makes it one of the most beautiful words in the Danish language to me.

Meanwhile the word lærer (teacher) just has a regular flat orange and is surrounded by blacks and browns and isn’t the most appealing word to me for that reason. If the Æ had somehow managed to get the space and support from the other letters to become the afternoon color, then maybe I would like lærer better?

There are other words that are incredibly ugly and either have dull or clashing color combinations like høreapparat (hearing aid) which is a distressing combination of a dry, desaturated brown clashing with a more rich, reddish brown, then black and vibrant red and a yellowish orange and then some reds and blacks at the end. Hideous word. Any time r’s, a’s, ø’s and h’s are put together I see puke colors and we have those letter combinations in plenty Danish words so that’s fun. And yet, sometimes it just works too. Ørsted is sleek. The brown is almost consumed in a pure black, the red is bold and fresh and there’s a little spark of a pale morning yellow in there to give it a bit of life. When the colors are clean, I like it. But with høreapparat, it’s just muddy, ugly colors that don’t fit together at all.

My personal favourite color is green, but I have so many green words and in various shades of green too, that I am bored of green when it comes to my synesthesia. Pinks, blues and purples are much more interesting to me in that context because they are so rare.

I am sure there are some of those out there! I saw a guy online who had color and shape based synesthesia with letters and numbers and he had built is own alphabet from that and actively used it for note-taking. He seemed exceptionally intelligent and his notes were a complete trip to look at. Some people called him schizophrenic in the comments because they didn’t understand it, but it was very clear to see that there was a logic and a system to his alphabet and his notes that wouldn’t have been there if he had schizophrenia. People fear what they don’t understand xD

I wish I could remember where I saw that. It was awhile ago. It was so cool.

From what I have been able to tell, many people with synesthesia are either artists or scientists. I’m sure there are also bankers and accountants with this affliction out there, but I guess you don’t hear about them as much as they don’t tend to become famous.

Haha yeah, I wouldn’t be able to tell you as of now! The closest I get to tell you what it looks like when strokes that stand for different things merge together is with the letter Æ. A is red, E is a pale yellow so Æ is orange, but on a gradient from brown to bright orange. Very pretty letter and very dominant in words.

We also have the letters Ø and Å in my language which stand for “oe” for Ø and “aa” for Å. These are different, though, as their designs don’t really show the combination of the letters like it does with Æ. O for me is white, sometimes with a light creamy yellow tint to it. E is, as I said, a pale yellow but Ø is the color of darker amber. A is red, but Å is a dusty blue and light pink, like a morning sky.

So if I learned Chinese, I’m sure the colors of their characters would be very intricate and probably take a different shape too as I’m used to seeing words in horizontal color codes similar to this:

But I suspect that because Chinese words are built more like in boxes, the color combinations would imitate their shapes too and that would be kinda cool to experience, I think. It would still be a largely useless ability, if you can even call it that, because I rarely use my synesthesia for anything other than remembering spellings and such.

In my case it does nothing for my understanding of math. I am pretty bad at math so my synesthesia would only benefit me with numbers if I was good at calculating things in my head. Then I would probably see the color of the number before getting the facit.

With words it can be helpful with spellings. If I or someone else misspell a word I see it immediately because the color is wrong. This is also how I remember people’s names. I tend to ask people how their names are spelled so I see their colors correctly. To me, that’s part of knowing someone. If I haven’t seen someone’s name written in front of me, they won’t have a color and I then tend to forget their names, which is super awkward sometimes.

With some words that can be spelled in different ways, I prefer some spellings over others because the color is prettier or more appropriate.

For example with gray and grey I prefer grey because the color of that word is light grey and a very light yellow. Gray is a dark, denatured brown and red. I don’t like it as much.

But yeah, when it comes to math, it does almost nothing for me because I’m not mathematically gifted at all.