…so are they going to tell us what the 90+ apps are?

Not in the slightest. I feel the same way.

All, of course based on how many kerned 1s and 0s (alternatingly) you could fit printed in 12pt Times New Roman font within the thing’s length.

Also, you need to alternate rounding your error (i.e. quarter rounds down, but hotdog rounds up, etc)

Better yet, just use “cooz” as the “common unit”

Then it’s proportioned following fluid ounce measurements from there. e.g. “coc” (computer cup) is 16 coozes.

This is how I feel every time I see an overpowered “prototype” weapon in a video game that works better than the standard version.

This is a beautiful block of information and I super appreciate you for having drafted it.

Yeah, that’d be the principle.

I’m really not sure how this is all gonna pan out, but I know you’re gonna need to offer me something really good to abandon “real” Signal. Not sure if that’s how the rest of the community feels, but I know that’s NOT the way “normal people” feel. If my sentiment is widely shared, maybe it does have hope in the end.

I’m forgetting the term everyone was throwing around when (Facebook’s) Threads was supposedly going to federate. But the gist of it was that this is an old Big Tech move: small community is created and thrives, big company integrates into the ecosystem, then a couple of years later the big tech company controls that that whole ecosystem.

If Facebook were to completely integrate, I worry they would begin to bring in additional features (maybe like blue chat bubbles for FB users, or bringing back SMS in the app; some feature that you’d only be getting on the FB version of the ecosystem) and use that to begin to strong arm the ecosystem under their control.

There’s probably a Slippery Slope Fallacy in there, but my good will towards Big Tech is minimal after the last decade or so.

I suppose the part I seem to be missing: what’s to stop Facebook from setting up a “Signal Server” that then hosts those users on Whatsapp/Messenger?

From there, what happens if Facebook then attempt to integrate those servers into the existing Signal network?

I’m really not sure how information is shared between servers on Signal and am curious if there’s not something at a purely technical level to stop that from happening. I’d imagine there’s some keys that need to be passed around for handling en/decryption which I think is what you’re alluding to, but I want to be clear that that’s what you mean.

Right, but with Signal being an open source project, it seems that anyone could (pending license-ability) build an app to interact with the main Signal network. It’s my understanding there’s a few apps on F-Droid that let you do that already.

Thus, Facebook should be able to (at least in theory) build compatibility for the Signal network into their existing messengers.

Is there any part of that I’m missing?

Sounds like facebook Meta isn’t seriously considering interoperation with the existing Signal network, which is a weight off my chest.

Or pro numbers, depending on how you look at it.

How does this contrast with AntennaPod?

6 O’ Clock News by Merkules and Chris Webby always gets me with the horn and siren bit.

Fuck, you guys made it to part 2?

This thread really has brought out some real crazies.

But you sir are, in fact, a demon among men.

I’m a cheap bastard.

Free is free

Yeah, like, since when does Microsoft put out something both functional and cool, ya know?

Political entity. I’m surprised how much I like that label. Thanks for informing me :)

As an American, I’ve mixed feelings.

On the one hand, I think I think Europe owning it’s own defense would be a solid move to ensure it’s own sovereignty and independence as a modern nation…thing.

On the other hand, I fear this could lead to US - EU military rivalry. While not necessarily the strongest bond in the world, I do value the relatively positive relationship the US and EU have. I hope that bond is preserved and hope we can grow even closer over time.