So, my good friend (18m) had a falling out with his ex (19m) because the ex bullied him and also because he is apparently dating a 16f, so my friend thinks he is a pedophile for obvious reasons (adult + minor).

I can see why this would be considered bad but also, when I turn 16, my girlfriend will be 19 too, as I am currently a young sophomore who is about 3 years younger than her girlfriend, a senior.

  • vfreire85@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    As said, case by case situation. It’s an adult dating a minor, but sufficiently close in age to be waived, with several restrictions and close watch by all involved, especially family members.

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    3 months ago

    I think pedophilia is more or less not a thing if you’re just three years apart and 18 years old.

    Despite what the law sais 18 years don’t magically make you knowledgeable and reasonable.

    Although, I don’t think relationships at 16 or 18 will last very long as you really are just children

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    4 months ago

    16-19? Not pedophilia. Not literally nor legally, move on.

    Pedophilia means being attracted by somebody who does not show sexual maturity yet, and I strongly doubt that I the case (I have a 16yo daughter, so…). And laws, usually, have clear exceptions for similar ages people like this, as it’s expected and quite normal. I mean given how stupid males are at that age, he being 3y older alny means they are closer than two 16yo.

    Are they both in school? Is there some power imbalance or abuse? Otherwise, move on and let them live their lives.

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      It’s not literally pedophilia, cool, but it is still creepy and child abuse

      being 16 makes a 19 year old seem like a real adult

      it wont end well, this situation probably means the younger party isn’t in a good place, some 19yo bozo isn’t in a position to support someone

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        3 months ago

        I have no idea which part of the world you live, but here nothing of that is true most of the time.

        That would be a love story between a first year and a last year student. Maybe unusual, but mostly doomed to last 3 months at best.

        Indeed a 17-19 is more common, and 18-19 quite common, but I wouldnt worry too much. Monitor yes, specially if the 16yo is somebody I care for/of.

        But child abuse? That’s a bit stretched.

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    4 months ago

    Grey area. The suggestion that it’s pedophilia is silly given they’re close in age, but a 3-4 year age gap when someone is 16 can be pretty significant; I’d consider it a warning sign.

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      4 months ago

      Definitely a warning sign. It really depends on the specifics because people mature at different rates, but there’s a much higher chance of it being problematic. There’s the half your age plus 7 rule, but it doesn’t really work if you are under 22.

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        4 months ago

        Yeah, my first boyfriend had been jumped up two grades, so I was 16 and he was 14. It never went beyond awkward kissing in the alley after class tho.

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        There’s the half your age plus 7 rule, but it doesn’t really work if you are under 22.

        Doesn’t it?

        • 14/2+7 = 14. It’s questionable for anybody under 14 to be in a romantic or sexual relationship even if the other person is the exact same age.
        • 16/2+7 = 15. People tend to mature rapidly in this age range, so dating someone much younger is sketchy.
        • 18/2+7 = 16.
        • 20/2+7 = 17.

        These line up with my intuition for the age gap being acceptable, not something that should raise eyebrows. A little outside that becomes a warning sign. A lot outside that is almost certainly abusive.

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          21 and 17 can be a big gap, even 20 and 17 can be. It’s not as clear cut as 22, which can also be sketchy but is at least recognized as fully legal everywhere. I think there’s too much diversity in maturity and life experience at those young ages, the potential for issues increases so those kinds of relationships are inherently concerning in ways that relationships involving legal adults are not. I’m not saying they are inherently problematic, but if you know people with that kind of age gap you should be looking out for the underage person to ensure they aren’t being taken advantage of.

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        4 months ago

        In the medical sense a therapist treating someone for pedophilia would use the term, you’re correct. In a colloquial sense, Epstein was a pedophile.

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    I thought this post was about the numbers and … Well, I like 16. It’s got a few neat math things going on. 19 is a prime, but doesn’t have much else going on for it.

    edit: I was thinking that 16x3 was 38 and that 19x2 was 38, which would be interesting. However, 16x3 is 48, which I love, while 19x2 is indeed 38, which is still pretty cool. On the other hand, 64 is fun, while 57 is super duper boring.

    Maybe my wife is right when she says I’m neurodivergent.

    edit: This is pleasing to me.

    Sixteens all around

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      Are you kidding? 57 is interesting. From Wikipedia:

      57 is semiprime, a Blum integer, and a Leyland number.[3]

      The split Lie algebra E⁠7+ 1 / 2 ⁠ has a 57-dimensional Heisenberg algebra as its nilradical, and the smallest possible homogeneous space for E8 is also 57-dimensional.

      Although fifty-seven is not prime, it is jokingly known as the Grothendieck prime after a legend in which the mathematician Alexander Grothendieck gave it as an example of a prime number, not realizing it was divisible by three. The same error was made by another famous mathematician, Hermann Weyl, in a published article.

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    3 months ago

    Yes it really is… I know when in High School you don’t get that , but once your removed from that isolated environment you will se it.

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    4 months ago

    Not a pedophile at 16; must be prepubescent to be a pedophile. It is really annoying that people like you keep using the word incorrectly.