This has been a doozy of a year. And it’s the best year so far blah blah. So how are you all coping? Does it hit anyone else like a bolt of lightning that probably I - we - won’t die of old age?

  • safesyrup@lemmy.hogru.ch
    9·
    4 months ago

    I don‘t. I‘m accepting that i, as an individual, will not be able to impact it and so i‘m pretty much going with it. Humanity will survive, thats for sure but i make sure to make the most of it in the time where it‘s still bearable.

    • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net
      2·
      4 months ago

      I think I’m on an accepting phase too.

      I’ve been through a lot personally and emotionally since I started reading about collapse 9 years ago.

      I had a look at this publication a few years ago, it put me in a rough place for a few days.

      Recalibration of limits to growth: An update of the World3 model

      https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/22b9ba56-4ef1-49a6-8587-887bd74a0701.jpeg

      Humanity will survive I’m certain of it, however our thermo industrial civilization will not and most of the people currently living in the planet will not.

      It will happen whatever I personally do.

      The best I can do now is to find ways to have the happiest life I can using as little ressources as possible for my family, my community (neighbors, friends …) and me. It’s a process that forces us to reassess a lot of things we were doing but it is fascinating.

      Practically it means finding ways to lower our monthly expenses, try to consume local as much as possible and learning a lot of new techniques…

      • rbesfe@lemmy.ca
        53·
        4 months ago

        Some humans somewhere will survive. We’re the most adaptable and intelligent species on the planet

        • rustyfish@lemmy.world
          5·
          4 months ago

          We’re the most adaptable and intelligent species on the planet

          Which makes all the other life on earth really sad if you think about it. /s

          It’s easy to fall into doomerism, but the truth is we are incredible in taking immediate dangers head on. We just happen to be shit tier in doing something against anything vague in the future. A human TPK, without tapping into SciFi, is out of the question.

        • dwindling7373@feddit.itEnglish
          11·
          4 months ago

          We are the most intelligent, not the most adaptable by a long shot.

          That also doesn’t guarantee anything, we are smart not capable of impossible feats of magic. If the situation is irreversible that’s what it is and you die. The end.

      • navi@lemmy.tespia.org
        11·
        4 months ago

        My guess is humanity will, but society probably won’t, at least not in or near it’s current form.

      • saltesc@lemmy.world
        11·
        4 months ago

        Nah. It’s only been around a very, very short time and it won’t remain much longer despite probably being one of the longer stints the planet’s seen of life so far. We should still get to punch MAN into the high score screen and be seen by other players later on, like we saw with DNO.

    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      14·
      4 months ago

      I am educated in science and I do not think humanity will survive, no. Most megafauna will probably die out. There are ~10 planetary boundaries and we’ve crossed a lot of them. Earthquakes and volcanoes will start picking up. AMOC collapse could be as soon as 2025.

      • AA5B@lemmy.world
        3·
        4 months ago

        AMOC collapse could be as soon as 2025.

        No. I also read that. There was a prediction that AMOC collapse might be inevitable by 2025 and take a couple centuries to happen.

        We have pretty good evidence the currents are slowing, but no real data to predict if and when it might stop. A couple researchers made a prediction that is not currently accepted by the field. It’s just pretty dire, but would affect a few generations from now even if true

        • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          1·
          4 months ago

          No, it won’t take a couple of centuries to happen, you misread. The collapse will most likely happen before 2050 according to new research which speeds up the timeline on the old research. The various environmental fields do actually agree on this and it’s accepted.

          The impacts of an AMOC collapse would leave parts of the world unrecognizable.

          In the decades after a collapse, Arctic ice would start creeping south, and after 100 years, would extend all the way down to the southern coast of England. Europe’s average temperature would plunge, as would North America’s – including parts of the US. The Amazon rainforest would see a complete reversal in its seasons; the current dry season would become the rainy months, and vice versa.

          That means the collapse will happen, with immediate consequences as well as consequences that won’t stabilize for over 100 years, not taking into account other destabilizing forces. Like can you read?

      • Artyom@lemm.ee
        11·
        4 months ago

        Can you please elaborate on what you mean by “educated in science”?

        • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          1·
          4 months ago

          I have taken a variety of science classes, especially in biology but also in chemistry, engineering, and physics, at undergrad and masters level at multiple decent universities.

      • aidan@lemmy.world
        12·
        4 months ago

        Then you should recall that some of the largest megafauna ever lived for tens of millions of years at much higher temperatures(and therefore sea levels)

        • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          32·
          4 months ago

          At higher temps that changed over thousands of years gradually. This is not that. And that’s even if “high temp” was the ONLY planetary boundary being crossed. It is not. There are numerous SIMULTANEOUS extinction events happening. And we know megafauna isn’t surviving this time because we are in the middle of a major extinction event already. Millions of sea life and millions and millions of birds and insects are dead already, from being boiled alive in the ocean to starvation to pollution to bird flu.