• teamevil@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Dude … straight numbers…you really think that many in Gaza were actual Hamas vs Palestinians trying to live their lives? Hamas sucks but this is like trying to kill all Florida because of a few Florida men, or all of DC because of politicians…this is genocide and there is no way to defend it.

    Edit: Israel literally made up lies about rape and got that bullshit published in the New York Times ruining them as actual journalism and then bombed refuge camps…not an easy argument to defend.

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      7 months ago

      You know how many people in Germany that weren’t died because of the bombings?

      If your government starts a war you have to pay the price.

      Why is noone calling Hamas to surrender?

      Sure Israel is definitely able to be more careful and their right wing ministers are only adding fuel - but that doesn’t really change their right to defend themselves (and Hamas is still attacking them each day)

      That whole situation is a total clusterfuck and I really wish Israel would get rid of netanyahu and vote for someone that’s interested in a long term solution that’s including Palestine.

      • brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml
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        7 months ago

        If your government starts a war you have to pay the price.

        Hey look at that, it’s Bin Laden’s moral justification for 9/11

        Though it doesn’t really apply here, because for you to use the whole “Palestine started it so Israel is just defending themselves by genocideing the civilian population” you have to acknowledge that Palestine is a sovereign country. And if that’s the case, then what Israel has been doing to it for decades - blockading, cutting of food and water, violating it’s borders, killing it’s people, bombing it, forcing it’s people to carry ID cards, etc - meet the definition of acts of war many times over (as well as being war crimes) which means Palestine is completely justified in defending itself, including - by the standards you’ve set - by killing Israeli civilians.