• Log1cal_Outcome@feddit.uk
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    4 months ago

    You are absolutely right, it doesn’t give them a right to wage war on the Palestine people. Although Israel can and should ‘defend’ itself, it has gone way too far, killing thousands of innocents for no apparent gain. It is a disgusting over use of force and should quite rightly be condemned.

    I would argue however that Israel isn’t a colony of Europe or the US, that would imply control over the country and as has been quite apparent, Israel is making it’s own decisions and will happily shrug off any criticism from the Western powers. Using words like colony just derails the narrative you want to imply. It is a country created after the second world war (rightly or wrongly) and the horrors of the Holocaust. Does that excuse Israel now? No, absolutely not. If anything I should think they should know better.

    Israel needs regime change and a willingness to work with those that surround them and the same goes for Hamas. Religion, ideology, ethnicity, it’s all an excuse so easily used to justify violence and unfortunately I don’t ever see it changing.

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      4 months ago

      Although Israel can and should ‘defend’ itself,

      Should the Nazis have “defended” themselves against the Warsaw ghetto uprising?

    • SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      Did apartheid South Africa have a right to defend itself? Did Rhodesia? Did French Algeria?

      No. Regimes like these have one right: The right to be thrown in the dustbin of history and to be replaced by a more just order.

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      4 months ago

      Israel is making it’s own decisions and will happily shrug off any criticism from the Western powers

      There has been zero sincere criticism from the West. If you circumvent Congress to give Israel more money and openly state you are unconditionally supporting it, I don’t buy it if you leak a story about being furious with them behind closed doors. You shouldn’t, either.