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    “Noone goes to prison for underage smoking”. False. The people selling the cigarettes, poor people trying to make a buck, go to jail for the underage smoking

    That has nothing to do with smoking! All of those charges occur whether or not a kid lights up a cigarette! Are you joking with me right now?

    If a 15 year old kids lights up a cigarette there is nothing a cop can do about it. All laws around tobacco are around the sale of tobacco and a minor is not civilly or criminally liable for 1) purchasing or 2) smoking cigarettes. This isn’t alcohol where public intoxication is a crime. There are no laws about smoking cigarettes related to age, only location (hospitals, schools, airplanes, etc.).

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      You’re just being purposefully obtuse now.

      No. The kids aren’t the ones going to prison, but the prohibition laws do send people to prison.

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          No. I am pointing out that you are making two conflicting statements.

          You are doing mental gymnastics.

          Back to the point “Noone goes to prison for underage smoking”. Yes they do. When you make prohibition laws creating the concept of “underage smoking” you ARE sending SOMEONE to prison.

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            If you genuinely couldn’t piece together that he meant “smoking while underage” when he said “underage smoking” then I’m seriously concerned for you.

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              If you genuinely don’t understand how the English language works and you want to create your own form of doublespeak where you say “Noone goes to prison” but you really mean “let’s imprison poor people and still not solve the issue” them I’m seriously concerned for you.

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                No one goes to prison for smoking while underage. That’s a fact.

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                Wtf, why do you want to imprison poor people?

                What’s wrong with you, dude?

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                  So the magnanimous mr “null” has now gone full “I’m rubber you’re glue”.

                  Which about describes a prohibitionist.

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                    Nice doublespeak.

                    You literally said “let’s imprison poor people”. You understand how the English language works, don’t you?

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        No one but you is being obtuse here.

        You “corrected” someone by making an entirely different point from the one they made. In fact, the person you said was “wrong” actually stated the very thing you did.

        No one is saying your point is wrong. Just that it isn’t a correction.

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          The dude has such a Reddit hangover he can’t help but argue even when no one disagrees with him. It’s baffling.