Seen Chernobyl lately? It’s thriving with life, just not human. It amazes me that humans have such an inflated ego about their impact in the grand scheme. Sure we may fuck it up for a while, and it’ll definitely suck for us. But things will happily return to an equilibrium once we’re gone.

Bingo. Which goes to my point the ire should be at the companies more than AWS. And a lot of the big companies have more than enough money to handle it, but they’re greedy. But instead everyone is focusing on AWS, saying it’s a “monopoly” and needs to be “democratized”. It’s completely misplaced outrage IMO.

My main point, which may have been buried in my quickness to type things, is that it is on the individual companies to choose how they design and architect their systems. This was only a problem in us-east-1. They could have used other AWS regions, they could have used Azure or GCP. They could have used a multi-cloud or hybrid solution, and none of this would be an impact.

AWS is offering infrastructure, but it’s still on the companies to decide how they’ll use it. The ire should be placed on them, just as much, if not more, for taking the easy way out.

Even if you were to have a co-op owned style cloud solution (democratized as it were). If companies choose to only host in one Datacenter/region it’s squarely on them.

A lot of these big names that went down have very poor infrastructure practices if a single region of a single provider took them out. It’s definitely not for lack of money on their part.

Breaking the 4th wall, but slightly.

For starters: thank you for a thought out response. It feels like most people are missing the core point and just blaming the provider.

Even if there were a “public” public cloud, the underlying issue I’m getting at is with the companies that are using it. AWS has multiple regions. There are multiple cloud providers such as GCP and Azure too. Yet the companies are the ones defaulting to a single region, single provider configuration, which as we all know is still a SPOF, no matter what redundancy is built in.

To that point nowhere im saying that you can’t democratize things.

Fair enough there. But how do you “democratize” individual business decisions? Or are you suggesting socializing all entities?

With your personal attack your handle suits you.

So that goes to my point that it’s on the companies that use the cloud providers. Not the cloud providers themselves.

“There’s a monopoly” — proceeds to list 3 separate providers. Don’t forget there’s also Akami, now we’re up to 4. Oh, and Cloud Flare… so that’s 5.

The issue is more so with companies that choose to use cloud providers. They’re the ones attempting to cheap out because they don’t want to pay infrastructure costs. You also have a lack of knowledge by engineers on how to create redundant/reliable systems.

Not everything on the internet went down. There’s plenty that was just fine. So I don’t really don’t know what “democratizing” it would gain, or how.

Edit: For anyone downvoting, I’d love to hear what “democratizing” the internet means, how it would work, or be functional. Because right now it just strikes me as salty people who’s favorite site went down.

I’m with you on this one. It’s almost exclusively what I watch.

Oh man. One of my old companies, the Devs would always blame the network. Even after we spent a year upgrading and removing all SPOFs. They’d blame the network……

“Your application is somehow producing 2 billion packets per second and your SQL queries are returning 5GB of data”…. “See! The network is too slow and it has problems”

And the air bladders have a leak that was usually dealt with by it being plugged in so it deflates and you’re left with a very flat and hard bed.

My issue is around video card. From what I’ve seen Linux drivers for the Arc B580 are minimal at best.

That’s how I’ve been. I know I’m dreaming, but unless I think something is egregiously wrong, I don’t bother to alter it and instead let it play out with the actions I think I should be doing.

Seagate just broke up a massive counterfeiting ring where drives were being passed off as new and having their SMART values tweaked. That’s a good part of the reason they’re controlling the refurbs so that they can check them. It’s also why you saw Seagate getting hammered in the BB charts.